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Discussion in 'Welsh Springer Spaniel' started by Shona, Sep 28, 2007.

  1. Shona

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    Info on welsh springer spaniel

    Hi

    I have a welsh Springer Spaniel who has just started the training club last week,
    its not a breed I have ever delt with before and I wondered if anyone on the forum who owns the breed or have had a lot of hands on knowlage could give me some insight into them.
    thanks shona x
    his name is Logan here's a photo I took of him having a play after training, :grin:

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  3. madaboutwelsh

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    hello i ahve 4 of them, i show and do obedience with them and also breed.

    if i can be of any help please just holla
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    They are not the easiest to train, as very much a wats in it for them kinda attitude. if you wanna email me you can get me on madaboutwelsh@yahoo.co.uk
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    Sam is a Welshie and I think they are all like him, a bit bonkers and hyper. However they are also quite sensitive and can be nervous of strangers, and plastic bags blowing about in the wind! They like to jump up on you, are very affectionate and bark a lot. Sam can be quite unpredictable with other dogs although he has not always been like that but in general they seem to be good natured. He responds well to the clicker/treat at the moment and is good at fetch but not so good at stay. He is often quite reluctant to come but does it in the end. If he gets fixated on an interesting smell he just does not hear you.

    Hope this helps Shona. Let me know if you have a specific question. I'm sure you'll soon get the measure of him though!
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    From the ones I have met they are rather like ESS, very energetic, bouncy, a bit crackers but a bit more toned down and not bouncing off the walls quite as much as an English but some seem to be a bit more highly strung. Definately a breed that needs firm and constant training and socialisation as a pup, I can imagine one in the wrong hands would be a definate case for an absolute nightmare, destructive, noisy e.t.c, as they need to be kept mind active.

    Never lived with any or anything, just met them at shows and chatted to owners with being in the gundog group with Mad. Had one in puppy class who was quite shy of the other dogs at first, and a couple in ringcraft too.

    Lovely dogs but need a canny bit of work in training.
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    thanks everyone, to be honest, all the comments are similar to the ones the owners made, its there first dog, he didnt seem to hyper, but often dogs dont on the first week, I only really introduced him to the clicker, covered some of there concerns and so on, he seemed like a lovely little thing, a bit wary of some things but on the whole a more sensitive sort that ESS, gordon my son has one at his dads and its sensitive to nowt,,,
    I dont really have any set questions as yet, but im sure as I go on they will come thick and fast,
    I dont really treat all dogs that come to the club the same they are all diff, I dont do the one method fits all as clearly it does not, I have never had a WSS before, I just kinda want to know what makes them tick, what they enjoy, what they dont, I would hate to go in all gung ho and upset the wee fella,
    the only other thing at the moment is,,,, is there special limits needed on exercise, is there limits on what they can do before a set age that sort of thing,,,thanks guys,,,your all fab
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    Don't know anything about that I'm afraid...maybe if I had Sam wouldn't have had a slipped disc in his neck!
  9. Shona

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    awe poor sam,,, I have been told by the owner that she has been told not to let him run around with other dogs untill he is nine months old, he cant go up and down stairs, and so on, now I have rotts and the same info kinda goes with them but I dont follow it to a rule as I feel given the breed that socilaisation with other dogs is a must prior to nine months old, to date I cant say I have had any problems letting them be dogs, so I had thought it strange that WSS had to be so wrapped up in bubble wrap,,,
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    To be honest I don't think we could have stopped Sam from playing hard with every dog he met..he loved every dog but not so keen on people he didn't know. Now he is a right grumpy devil with a lot of dogs. I wonder though if it is for showing purposes that they have been told that. One owner said to me something about not letting her wss jump over things as it would spoil his front? Not sure what that means though. I know that they are a breed prone to hip dysplasia so maybe the stairs thing is to do with that. But they are supposed to be working dogs and able to withstand all that that involves, hardy tough dogs.
    Morganstar has umpteen of them so she would be able to tell you all about them too.
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    All good breeders recommend that there lightly excerside to protect there hips, as we have a problem with displacia in the breed. I tell all my onwers no stairs or long walks but I dont have a problem with them running free and playing wiht other pups its just road walking I warn them to beware of.
    Any idea of the puppies parentage, might gives us an idea on his tempremant.
    You might also find it doesnt respond to treats, appart form dice non of mine ar "foodies" but spence will do anythink for a squeeky ball.
    Pm me if you need any help, Ive donce obedience with all mine and my friends a trained phsycologist and she has welsh as well so knows the problems
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    To be honest he seems very unintrested in anything at the moment, but that could be due to the way the owners have played with him, Will try with some new toys, see what he responds to, thanks
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    Your welcome, there not an easy breed, they can be a bit manic and one of mines got the attention span of a knat, having said that a lot of them do well at obedience. They also hate been shouted at or chastised, mine got to pieces and since a trainer at ring craft shouted at Lexie for misbehaving she pees everytime a male jusde goes near her,
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    Poor Lexie...horrible man.
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    poor Lexie...horrible man:x
    Sam loves these bad cuz squeaks.:)
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    to be honest I dont find many dogs respond well to being screamed at, rottys are a bit like that,,,most folk think they should be trained with a heavy hand,:shock: far from it, they are so easily upset, I find the methods I use work well, you only have to look at kodi, asta, my lot to see the end results, If I go nuts at my lot they dont look at me for days, thiis tends to happen more when like today they got hold of kitchen roll,,,,,winter wonder land springs to mind :evil: the things they do to amuse themselfs when mums got flu and its raining outside,,,:neutral:
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    Not going to repeat what i said too him not allowed to use that sort of language on a public forum :(
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    I have managed to get my bronze KCGC with one of my welsh and my mum has acheived the silver. Mine are all food orintated just got to find wat they like and ensure its changed weekly they get bored of the same ole thing, bless them.

    Concentration is not really a problem as long as the handler is exciting enough and makes the whole process fun and keeps telling the dog how wonderful it is. Never get cross patience is a MUST they all get there in the end and once they suss wat they gotta do then Hey Presto it easy LOL. Ive been in a begineers class for about 4 months now, my lilly hasnt quite got the hang of the recall we can do 4 steps then she follows me (awwww) but last nite we managed 5 and i was so thrilled and so was she.

    They are a wonderful breed, very different from the ess. Some can be quite shy, (rule 1. never approach a welsh let the welsh approach you) The English from wat i know like to please the welsh lilke to please themselves and everything is a game. I have not come across a welsh that isnt always smiling.
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    I would agree with that madabout welsh. I was watching the judging at a show recently and one of them got very concerned when the judge approached him..he was just a youngster. In the end he couldn't be judged. I don't show Sam but he does not take to strangers and I think he would also react like this, esp when he was younger. He's a real character though and very full on with his affections once he bonds with you! The vet thinks that he takes himself very seriously and I'd have to agree!
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    Bless him, the thing is once they have gained your trust they will be devoted to you they have that look as of to say "shy me!! never! dont know wat you mean!"

    I started socialisation at a very young age with my last litter and it seems to have paid off, they are very outgoing puppies and not shy of other dogs or people.

    Yes they can be very serious especially when they enjoy something, Lilly is like that at obedience she makes me chuckle when some other dogs are having a play while waiting there turn and she throws this look as if to say.. "please behave we are meant to be concentrating here!!"

    My puppy is very outgoing and is nothing like her mother who i also have at home, she is so reserved and such a snob and does not and will not mix with other dogs. Im about to start puppy classes in a couple of weeks with summer, she is now 11 months old. I will keep you posted as to how we get on...

    Emma
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    One word Emma... Spencer.
    He was socialised form 7 weeks and went to obedience for 2 years with no improvement at all but you know what he's like. I know what you mean about the look though, we call Spence posh paws because he looks down his nose at the rest of the rabble. Bron and Lexie are getting the same lol.

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