Full article here... http://www.dogworld.co.uk/product.p...tm_source=Campaign Monitor&utm_term=Read more Does she have a valid point?
I can understand what this woman is saying, but at the same time know why dogs are checked by vets at dog shows. So am on fence with this one.
Is there really any point when these reports are confidential and will not be disclosed to any third parties."? Some may say it’s a step in the right direction, but I think the health checks were rushed in without full thought given, already some dogs who failed at one show have passed two days later at another, there is no consistency and vets will have various opinions on what is passable and what is not, which is where the problem lies’ not sure id be happy with a ‘non specialist’ giving opinion on my dog. Why isnt health checks on the profiled breeds done Before judging, at least that way a so called 'healthy' example could have a shot at winning BOB. I would be bloody annoyed if I was beaten by a dog that was ‘disqualified’ and my dog not being given a chance at BOB
Have replied more fully on the Dogsey thread. I think this owner's reasoning is spurious, - why enter if you don't want to be tested? However, I agree with Vee about the nature of these 'tests', which do involve a degree of subjectivity. If there is testing it should be to a consistent standard.
Thank you for the responses. I had hoped that there were some Clumber owners around for their comments but apparently not, however I was interested on whether comments on this section would agree with or differ from the comments on the general Discussions and Debates section on Dogsey regarding this woman's remarks and decision, hence posting the same on both Fora. @GsdSlave - I agree that any testing should be done before judging. @CaroleC - I agree with your comment about why enter if you do not want to be tested. Thanks again.
Exactly !! if I wasn’t going to have vet check id be saving my money and not enter.im not sure shes done the breed any favours, wouldn't it have been better to have another Clumber pass the vet check,(assuming it would) especially as they are pushing to get off the HPB list.
There could be a number of reasons why it didn’t take part, possibly the owner didnt turn up, for personal reasons or otherwise, some people give the Judge a ‘complementary entry even though they are not going to the show.
@GsdSlave and @CaroleC - thanks both of you - not knowing much about showing I had not thought of those reasons for the non-attendance of the other Clumber.
We did the catering at Blackpool Dog Show. Thankfully i didnt go as i was at another event as i would have been arrested. The man in charge has Napoleon syndrome and spoke to my dad and staff in a totally disgusting manner ( i wont repeat ). Im currently researching how to get in touch with his superiors but his details are the only ones listed on the shows website. If anybody can help i would be greatfull otherwise i shall have no other option but to publicly slate the event untill somebody gets in touch with me
Testing each dog before the judging would be an impossible task, entries can add up to thousands, and even though its only the high profile breeds on the watch list they can still add up to hundreds of dogs......its just not possible to do it, you have 1 vet doing the vet checks on a given day of the show, Lets say you have a 100 dog in one breed 50 in another 25 in another and there could be up to 10 breeds being vetted... that`s an awful lot of dogs for one vet to give a pass to before the show starts. given they will be designating 10 mins (or more) to a dog!! Regarding the Clumber owner, I am sure she has her reasons, not sure about not wanting unknown people touching her dog , that`s a poor excuse, maybe she just did not want a vet who declared her dog unfit ... the way this testing has been going since it was brought in is a joke, because A dog can pass under 4 vets but fail under another, its not thought through and it may be as simple as that why she refused. Most shows the judging starts at 9-30 , many folk have hrs of travel to get there, getting up at silly o clocks to do 2.3.4 hr trips, they start to enter the show grounds at 7.30 to be ready for their classes to start at 9.30, can you imagine them having to be there another few hrs before so a vet can go through hundreds of dogs to see if they can enter the show.
I have to admit that I had no idea there could be that many dogs that would have to be checked, or even that many breeds on the vet check list. I have a lot to learn about showing as it has never been a part of my life with dogs. Thanks for clarifying it for me.
for instance...east of England champ show... Bassets....32 dogs. 28 Cumber spaniels , 16 Shar pei . and that jus ta few breeds, can you see now why its an impossible task to vet before judging.
I knew that some breeds had to be checked but not that many - I thought it was just a few. And with that many of just those three breeds at one show, I now fully understand how totally impossible it would be to check them all before judging.
