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    Worried new owner

    Hello everyone, my name is Nicole. My parents fell in love with a 4 month old male bernese mountain dog only 2 days ago and could not leave the pet store without him. We named him Milo. I am away at school and have not gotten a chance to see him in person yet, however, my parents are worried they made an impulsive decision and that this was not the right choice. We have a 4 year old shih tzu, Max, who has been nothing but a joy in our lives and is an absolutely amazing, loving dog. He gets very scared and nervous around other dogs, but we thought giving him a friend would be beneficial for him. My parents are beside themselves with the reaction that Max has had since we brought Milo home. He will not eat, won't stop shaking, won't go to the bathroom, and is drooling from his mouth- he has never had this bad of a reaction to other animals and it has only been 2 days. My parent's knew it would be tough but they are getting very nervous seeing Max like this. As for Milo, he is absolutely adorable and shows so much affection already. Of course, he is just a puppy, but a much bigger puppy than we are used to. The house breaking is tougher than they thought- he has been chewing at our kitchen cabinets and has had so many accidents. I know it has not even been a week yet, but my parent's say that something does not feel right with this decision. They are aware that this is a choice they have made and are trying to come up with a solution to deal with it the best that they can. They knew that this type of dog is completely different than our Max in every way possible, but they did not think carefully enough about the impact this would have, they just loved him so much and wanted to give him a home. After researching more about the breed after bringing Milo home, they are worried about the demands of this type of dog. My dad is home all day long so we knew we would have someone to be with the dog all the time and work on the training, however, we are worried about the times that we will have to leave the dog. Although Max is not left alone often, it is not a problem when we do have to leave him alone for a few hours, or we are able to bring him with us wherever we go because he is so tiny and well-behaved. We are also not sure how we will be able to deal with the excessive amount of shedding, since we are not used to this. Also, we are very worried about damages to our house. Aside from all of that, we are mostly worried about Max because we would hate to cause any harm to such an important part of our family. This has been no light decision, but my parents are considering looking into finding another home for Milo (of course we would make sure he will be safe and loved before making any moves). I would never imagine my family to even consider going back on a decision like this because we have so much love for animals and it is truly breaking all of our hearts. We want so badly to give this a shot and hope for the best, but we are worried that the longer we keep Milo, these conditions may get worse. I am especially taking this hard because although I was shocked at the choice of dog breed, I was so excited and already loved the idea of having Milo as a part of our family (after only seeing him over facetime). However, at the same time I am sick thinking about the reaction of my dog Max and hearing the sound of nervousness and regret in my parents' voices. I am writing here to see if anyone at all has experienced any type of similar situation and I am seeking any advice that I can get. Thank You.
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    Sadly this story is all to familiar with people who buy on impulse and not choosing the right pet for their lifestyle ,also buying from a pet store encourages Puppy Farmers and Byb. Your parents have only had the pup a few days and are already struggling This pup is going to grow quite large and if your parents are struggling now they may not be able to cope later on, so do what’s right for the pup and rehome it, either through breed rescue or rescue centre.
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    I am taking it that you live in America & not England with you saying your parents bought the pup at a petshop.
    I agree with Vee if the pup is to much for your parents then look at giving the pup to breed rescue home [Bernese Mountain Dog rescue home] they will find a loving home for the pup with someone who knows all about the breed & his needs.
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    I was really sad to read this post. A four month puppy of any breed which is bought from a dealer is likely to have missed out on a great deal of socialisation, and is bound to take longer to adapt to living in a house than a puppy bought from a private breeder. This is magnified if the puppy is a large breed. If your parents feel unable to commit to training and socialising this puppy, it would be better if they put this impulse buy down to experience, and let the Bernese MD Rescue find a home for him as soon as possible.
    Buying from a dealer perpetuates the puppy farm and backyard type of breeder. There really is no substitute for seeing a prospective puppy at home with his mother, and having the breeder's advice to fall back on. Whatever you decide, I hope Milo has a happy life.
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    There are several big stores/pet shops/kennels in the UK that are licensed to buy in puppies to resell.
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    WHAT I thought the RSPCA refused all licenses for petshops to sell puppies & kittens.
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    No its nothing to do with the RS#CA it’s the local authority’s who give out the licence
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    Its all confusing as the RSPCA are the ones that do spot checks on the petshop, you learn something new every day
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    @6JRT's My Eddie had just this sort of start in life, so there is a good reason why I have such strong feelings about dog dealers. I have found out that his breeder is licensed for 108 breeding bitches, and 12 stud dogs. The mind boggles at how any council could think that number of dogs could possibly receive adequate care and attention. Ed was imported through Stranraer, and sent to what I can only describe as a dog supermarket in the North Manchester area. He was sold at around 12 weeks, but due to his first owner's health problem, he was only in that home for a fortnight, before being taken to a rescue centre, - which is where I found him.
    As you will well know, these puppies arrive in rescue confused and under socialised. They have absolutely no knowledge of what is expected of them in a domestic environment, and often have hang-ups, (Eddie could not bear eye contact - the supermarket?), and building their confidence can mean having lots of setbacks along the way. These places will eventually be banned - the sooner the better in my opinion.

    PS. I have a friend who had a few petshops, (did not sell cats or dogs). I know that a local council inspector did the inspections on her premises. I'm not certain, but I think he could have been a Public Health Officer.
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    There is a petshop just up the road from us that sells cats and dogs .
    its horrible the conditions they have them in , they had dogs in glass boxes before , now they have a tiny room after being complained and there is pee and poo everywhere that the animals sleep in . someone I knew brought a dog from there and a couple of weeks later they found out it had a heart murmur , they should shut them down , the dogs look so sad in there its dreadful .
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    Are you near Wokingham Katie? There is an active petition aimed at trying to get that council to ban puppy sales from Linton Pets Shop. To date the council have refused to revoke the licence, but the campaigners are determined, and are continuing to protest.
    The charity Pup Aid have petitioned parliament to act to stop dog dealing businesses, and many MP's are prepared to give their support. There is a momentum, it will happen eventually - just not quickly enough for all those tired bitches, and sad puppies.
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    Screenshot_2016-04-14-00-24-59.png No I'm in London , more central London . but yes it should be stopped it's horrible .That's the pet shop how they have the poor dogs in . I have to go in there sometimes to get burns food for blue and the people who work in there are so stupid , they no nothing about dogs . I'm not a expert but compared to them I feel like I could be lol . The dog conditions are terrible , a lot of them look very dirty and there coats looks very matted . There's cats in boxes aswell and lots of different animals , even exotic animals they sell that they don't have the brains to look after .
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    Sad. Poor puppies.
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    The RS#CA do not inspect Pet Shops or Puppy Farms it’s the local authority’s who arrange for an inspection of the premises to be carried out by a vet and by an officer of the local authority.

    I cannot put on here how I feel about the RS on this matter they have the Audacity to condemn yet do nothing ‘hypocrites’

    Here is the article & link about the petition (bottom of page) Carole mentioned, http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/reading-berkshire-news/pet-store-puppy-petition-row-10729850

    The RS even refused to sign .
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    I always thought it was the RSPCA didn't realize it was the local council that did the spot checks.

    It does make me wonder why the RSPCA do spot check at The Rescue Home every 6 months.
    The council that issued the licence only comes when the licence needs renewing.

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