Cockapoo breeders Questions

Hello I am new and need advice I'm looking for some advice on Cockapoo breeders in the uk.

I know there is a big breeder in Lincolnshire but they have such a high turnover of pups it puts me off. There is so many breeders and info I don't know where to start.

been on The Cockapoo Club but found that confusing On one hand potential purchasers are told not to purchase from breeders who breed multiple crosses or have more than a couple of breeds. But have breeders listed who do breed multiple crosses They also 'approve' breeders who are listed on other animal campaign websites as puppy farmers. So I'm very very confused so Can anyone recommend a home hobby breeder of Cockapoos please

There's a litter [name removed] - don't know if that's any good for you.

The mother is a golden cocker spaniel, father an apricot miniature poodle. Ready October - seem very expensive though.

No advice other than ask for the pedigrees of both parents, check with the KC's webside for health test results & run a mile from anyone who does not have proof of hip/elbow/eye clinical tests for at least 2 generations & also DNA normal tests or normal by parentage for genetic conditions that each breed have

Personally I would never pay for a crossbreed puppy-Cockerpoo is not a breed they are crossbreeds

They are very popular round here, and I have to say every single one of them is delightful. Very high energy levels though!

I don't know what part of Devon you are, but there are also litters in Crediton (described as from a show cocker bitch and an apricot miniature poodle, both on the small side) and a litter in South Molton. These are described as 'a miniature' variety - not sure what that means - sire a toy poodle perhaps.

Would agree with Joedee though - health and freedom from genetic conditions is the most important thing.

Hi From your thread,it seems that you belief cockerpoo is a breed it is what as known as a first cross,you don't get a pedigree.and don't think you get health checks,all that happens is you pay a shedload of money for what is a mixed breed,not a pedigree and a lot of these breeders breed at home, but sometimes a breeder who normally breed a particular breed,will breed these and they may be few and far between,they at least are experienced and will be mindful of health issues,Gemini54

I agree it's very confusing to understand who is telling the truth. It seems that many bad breeders have made the switch from producing pedigree dogs to cross-breeds. The "Farms of Shame" website has highlighted a cockapoo breeder in South Wales to avoid like the plague.

This always astonishes me. Surely you would pay money for the puppy because the breeders had to pay for health tests, invested time and effort into proper breeding and socialisation etc. and not just for a pedigree certificate.

I would rather pay someone who really cares about the puppies and the parents, regardless of the breed or mix of them, than for a fancy certificate and kennel name.
I don't think dogs with pedigrees have more value than crossbreeds so I would never (again) pay more money for a pedigree bred dog than for one without papers.

But how many cockerpoo/jackahuahua/Borgi etc etc etc 'breeders' do you know that truly care for their dogs?
that health test their breeding dogs?
I'm going to bet close to zero.

In my opinion, almost all of the 'breeders' mating their purebred bitch to a different purebred male and selling the resultant puppies for hundreds of pounds with stupid names are in it for greed and money.
Frequently, neither parent has any tests done whatsoever, worrying when the most common crosses seem to be yorkies and labs, two breeds with a very long list of inherited issues,
the pups are often sold as young as 6 weeks and there is none of the security of a puppy from a responsible breeder.
How many young 12 week old designer pups do you see for sale after changes in circumstances, not getting in with other dogs etc.
Any REPUTABLE breeder in my opinion would take the puppy back if need be.
These people offer no after sales care whatsoever and because of the lack of health testing, who knows how these pups could potentially turn out?

In my opinion, unless you have an outstanding example of a registered purebred dog or an outstanding working dog it is irresponsible to breed them.
There are far too many dogs and puppies dying in shelters, pounds and being abandoned to justify breeding an average pet dog or a mongrel to produce more puppies for the pet market.

Mongrels make great pets, but I don't believe they should be bred deliberately and certainly not sold for the same price of a high quality purebred!
My crossbred cat had an accidental litter of kittens once, they were rehomed to neighbours and friends for FREE.
To charge large amounts of money for a mongrel, I just don't agree with it at all.

A good breeder doesn't breed cross breeds puppy farms and back yard breeders do. I was shocked at how much money these were making from mongrels because they call them designer breeds. What a load of rubbish, these breeder just want the money the pups will bring.

You do need to research both breeds not just one, both are high energy breeds and need a lot of both mental and physical exercise then there is the cost of clipping many of them. Some people think that people who have allergies are fine with these breeds, they are not, they are just as prone to allergies as other breeds.

I have a Cocker Spaniel/JRT, her energy levels are high, she needs constant stimulation and looks so cute that people think she is funny and laughs at her which doesn't do her any good.

If you are set on a cockerpoo try some rescues, they do come into rescues quite a lot because owners can't cope with their energy levels.

It is up to you as a buyer to make sure you avoid those breeders. Believe me, they exist as well among pedigree breeders.
I don't believe that people who have outstanding examples of dogs should breed their dogs just because of that. There are still dogs dying in shelters, and just breeding for an outstanding pedigree doesn't justify this in the same way that it doesn't justify breeding 'mongrels'. By breeding any kind of dog you add to the dog population, which is already too big as shelters are full.
To call pedigree dogs 'high quality purebreds' and mongrels merely 'second class pets' I find quite harsh. Standards have been set by humans and mean nothing if they don't put the health of the dog at first place.. which a lot of breeds clearly don't. Yes, most of them are health tested but in the end they can still be bred from and it's up to the buyer to check (and many of them aren't savvy and don't have a clue what all these numbers and letters mean).

A friend of mine has a purebred staffie with pedigree.. sold from a kennel at 6 weeks old. No health tests done whatsoever. So if you do your research well and you find a person who cares about their puppies and they do everything right.. health tests, temperament tests, socialisation etc. and that puppy happens to be a crossbreed.. would you really not want to pay any money for it?

There will be terrible breeders of purebreds too, absolutely.
But where there are some truly excellent breeders of purebreds, I personally have real doubts that there are cross bred 'breeders' out there offering the same level of health testing, socialisation, after care etc.

Yes all litters are adding to the population, but, if only animals who had outstanding temperaments, were proven healthy and either fantastic workers or fantastic examples of their breed were bred from the number of dogs in rescue would decrease dramatically I believe.
indiscriminate breeding is a big problem and I personally don't think you can justify breeding two different breeds together and selling purely for a pet market at an exorbitant price when so many dogs are being put down or handed into rescue.

I am not suggesting mongrels are second class pets at all.
By high quality I meant healthy, physically and mentally sound dogs proven clear of the most common diseases which most designer dogs are not.

And no, I would not be willing to pay much for a crossbred/mongrel and think it is wrong to charge much for them.
When I see people selling mongrel kittens and puppies for large amounts of money I think one thing and that is greed.

Ok that's potentially true.. sadly we'll probably never know as there will always be irresponsible breeders out there. Anyway, I don't want to hijack this thread.. I'm sure there are responsible 'crossbreed' and pedigree breeders out there who do the right thing. But I for myself will stick to rescue dogs

Hi I think that if you want something that you hope to keep for 12years,you should have as much information about the bitch and stud.In my chosen breed, my concern was as the stud was european and I know nothing about the european strain,but wanted to make sure that there wasnt Malinois,because they are known for aggression, so asked for 5 years on the papers,keeping my fingers cross,went through with my breeder,who helped me,and in recent years there isnt Malinois,but in the very beginning all Belguims had a mix of Terv,Gronedal and Malinois,but looking at the papers,my pups originated from a dutch strain.With some cockers mainly red,they are known to have problems and can turn nasty for no reason.And if I was spending that sort of money.I would like to know where and who my pup origins are,with breeders who are experienced you get the health checks and peace of mind,although people used to say mongrels were less likely to suffer from health problems,but usually there would be a number of breeds in one pup and they were known as Heinz 57.Gemini54

Hi

I have a link re cocker rage

http://www.thecockerspanielclub.co.uk/rage_syndrome.htm Gemini54

Just wanted to say 'welcome to Dogsey'
Think some people on here were too busy to notice this was your first post
Hope they haven't scared you away!

I think they still do - on the continent a Belgian is a Belgian and can contain any of the four different strains. A friend of mine has recently been to Holland for his new Belgian and one of the parents was a mix.

Hi I think the OP hasnt come back,I think she only probably wanted a breeders name after all and has made her mind up to get that breed Gemini54

Just wanted to say welcome and good luck with your search. Can't help really but looking around don't think anyone else has either

the OP put same thread on another forum, and got some helpful replies, no one making snide comments, or being unfriendly. Sometimes it appears some people jump in ' guns blazing' Saying crossbreeds should never be paid for is ridiculous, after all other modern breeds are recent crosses, for example Utonagans, so are you saying they should have been free or not bred. They are now a recognized breed.
Okay I agree there are some awful breeders, who churn out puppies and charge extortionate prices for their puppies, others who do no health testing. As we all know ther are pedigree dogs who suffer the same fate.
At least the OP was wise enough to come on a forum and ask for advice and help.
Cannot blame her for not replying on here.
Hope she manages to but a puppy of her choice.
Sorry for the rant.
But some people should be ashamed of themselves.
Puts me off posting a lot of the time.

I was a bit unhappy about some of the responses too. It sounded as if she was being 'told off' because she wanted a cockapoo (and I can understand why she is attracted to them, every one I have met has been a smashing little dog).
Her post made it clear she was aware that there were bad breeders and I really wish she had received friendlier replies.