Hello, I have a wonderful Blue Merle Border Collie, she is 3 1/2 yrs old. We got her as an adult, and she had previously had a litter before she came to us. I'd like to have a litter from her and have narrowed it down to two possible studs. I've already asked about their parentage to ensure that the Merle isn't in them, or in the parents. So as I've identified other qualities I'd like to see blended with her, such as health needs, skills of a working dog, etc. now I have to decide which one I'd like to use. Also as a factor is how close in proximity the studs are for the obvious reasons of repeat matings, travel, etc. Just to note, these will not be champion show dogs - simply working dogs, for myself, and also to sell the remaining pups on to homes as pets, or working dogs. So now I am left with 'looks'. Obviously this may seem inconsequential to some, but to others a rather important piece as people look at an advert and often are compelled 1st by a look they like. Hopefully it goes deeper than that, as so many of us find many things first by looks, then if good, develop more meaningful relationships in many aspects of our lives. Dogs will be one of those areas. So the two in question are: 1. A lovely Red stud. Both of his parents are red, and he is of course, red! He comes from a long line of reds. He's had a litter recently, which I've seen and the pups, with a black/white mother, have been b/w or tris. I understand that for red to be expressed, both parents have to be red? 2. The other is a White/Black collie with blue eyes. He is a white based collie, so more white than is normally present in a collie. His mother was similar with more white - her parents were both B/W. His father was a r/w and that had parents also that were r/w. Our girl is a Blue merle. Her parents were b/w and blue merle. I do not have information further back than this. I got her as an adult dog, and was mostly concerned at that time with her health, and saw her parents on the working farm she came from. The border collie genetics are a challenge with dominant, recessive, extensions and alleles! So I was wondering if there was anyone who could assist with a really basic idea of what sort of pups will be produced in these pairings. It would be nice to have a red merle, but not sure if that is possible as I am not sure our lass has the red gene. She's got a small amount of reddish fur on her haunches but it's more black but red. I am sure for the collie experts this will be commonly understood. I'd guess that with stud number one, she may get tri merles? A nice feature on stud 2 is the blue eyes. Our girl has brown eyes but I believe with the merle gene, it is a dilute, but as she has more dark colours to grey ratio, her brown eyes are reflective of that. Though she has a slight butterfly nose. So she'll have some dilute. But with the other, as he is carrying beneath his colour, his father's red genes - could they be expressed in the pups? Or is that highly unlikely since they are expressed in him as he takes on his mother's appearance with mostly white with black? I'd appreciate any help in trying to do the final selection of stud!