NI/Ute Health Problems Health

I know it's a serious matter but,

Its not something I have ever had a problem with so just wondered, How much time does the vet give the testicle to drop before he sees it as a poss problem?

I was told to wait till 10 months with Inka, he had 1 drop the other was stuck in the canal ouch !

One thing I do notice with NI hip scores is that most of them are uneven.

poor boy,, Thanks for that, Im guessing he had them removed after the ten months were up? Or did mr Inka's drop before that?

Is there not quite a high % of breeding done from uneven dogs thus,, uneven offspring?

Probably yes Shona, realistically though, hips shouldnt be uneven.

lol Mys its not that serious.Well not like an illness anyway! My vet says he could drop it anytime up to 18 months as the breed are slow to mature. But he recommends if by 18 months it hasnt come down i should definitely have him neutered. It certainly doesnt bother the little fat tart to have his balls checked over by the vet or anyone else who will give him a fondle!!! x

LOL, i saw this as Skipton! He was right on his back for anyone to have a look and an feel!!!!

Ela is still upset he was such a man tart to all the other girls . .

I have spoken to another friend today, who has a NI and she can account for a further 7 NI's who are all healthy although one has a high hip score, so the running total now is as follows:

42 NIS registered NI's - 1 who had an infantile heart murmur, 1 with undescended testicle, 1 high hip score and 1 uneven above average hip score (25), 1 pup waiting for testicle to drop

8 TIDA registered NI - 1 cryptorchid, 1 idiopathic epilepsy carrier.

2 BIDC registered BI - No health issues to date

1 TUA registered Utonagan - Idiopathic epilepsy sufferer.

5 Not stated or not registered (1 NI x, 2 Ute, 1 NI) - No health issues to date

Total of 58 dogs

A retained testicle (unilateral cryptorchidism) can lead to a greater risk of testicular cancer.

I read that a dog with a retained testicle is 13 times more likely to develop tumours, which together with an increase in female hormones, can affect blood cell production. Apparently the tumours can spread around the body too.

Having both removed if it doesn't drop seems to result in a normal lifespan for the cryptorchid dog.

This is why we had Noah castrated at 10 months old.

To avoid the effects of castration, i.e probable weight gain, coat changes, possible temperament changes (particularly in timid dogs) you can just have the retained testicle removed. the dog will then remain exactly the same as he was. He will however still be fertile, and as an inherited condition should not be bred from.

Dawn, I have read that both should be removed ... ?:?

problem is though everything starts tightening up around 12 months so the surgery is more evasive...inka was done at 11 months shona...

thanks Elaine, ;-)

They dont have to be LS, there is absolutely no reason why the normal one cannot be left, and thus avoiding all associated issues.

I expect the Vets would WANT to remove both as thats what they do.;-)

Ok Here are mine:

Angel - 3 1/2 year old male, no known health problems, testicles descended early, hip score 5:5, eye tested.

Misty - 3 year old female, no known health problems, late first season, hip score 5:4, eye tested.

Dita - 1 year old female, no known health problems, eye teste, due to be hip scored in the next few months.

All 3 are NIS registered.

One more to add!!

We have Chaos who is 2 at the beginning of October. She is registered with both NIS and TIDA, has no known health problems although was late coming into her first season.

heres mine
3 --2 reg with tida and NIS 1 with Tida.
I --epilepsy, blood clotting disorder, retained testicle. grass allergy
1 -- hip diplacia in right hip, retained testicle
1 --still a puppy --no health probs