NIS and prong collars General Chat

Some NI owners may choose to use collars some owners of other breeds may choose to use collars, I feel its wrong to say NID are not suitable as family pets beacause of some owners choosing a training method.

having not read the post on the other forum.. can anyone shed some light on to the reasons for use of them,.. eg is JK saying use them for pulling or something else?

We dont all have perfect Nis like yours and your mums suzy, who bred yours?

Does JK say she uses them herself or that she knows where they can be obtained? I havent read the other forum thread either.

Suzy you are a troll and a liar if you havent got the balls to speak as who you really are then no one respects anything you say.

And cant really see JK taking all her 14 plus dogs for a stroll.

Good post, not sure about not deserving to have adog though, I have never seen one being used ,if its like the pic shown earlier then fair play to your comment.

In the position she is in (shouldnt be in) she should not be promoting such things, disgraceful conduct.

I hate prong collars I think you might aswell just hit your dog when it pulls because it's probably nicer to them and causes less pain. (I am not saying hit your dog btw) Because thats all they do. you pull= I cause you pain.
I don't agree with the ecollar part though my friends dog is alive because of an ecollar.

How juvenile and rude - I just wanted to see how long untill you reverted to type.... not long eh!

Least I am not a coward, you have all these wonderful Nis as does your mother and so healthy and well behaved yet cant name who bred them, go stick a prong collar on see if it shocks you into remembering.

Not a coward just enjoying you showing yourself up... bye for now off to play with my wonderful ni's

what i mean is if a prong Collar is a Recommended piece of equipment for walking a NI then these dogs are not easy. Theres so many ways of making a dog stop pulling if Training, a head collar or a non pull harness dont work, are these dogs too uncontrollable ? my own dogs pull but can easily be stopped by abit of basic bit of training or a head collar/harness. can NI be trained by these methods? if so why do they seem to recommend a prong?
I REALLY like the look of these dogs & am a fan of them, but this is abit worrying

To be fair I'm really not sure why anyone would recommend a prong collar unless they were being paid a dump truck of money to endorse them or were selling them on commission.

I have looked at training sites that explain all the wonderful things a prong collar can do if correctly fitted and used responsibly... I just can't can't see how anyone could look at the collar and see anything other than a piece of barbed wire wrapped around the dog's neck.

I know I am being clearly biased and I really rarely take a stand like this (don't know what's got in to me actually, too much coffee)? But please... Surely no dog lover could with a clear conscience put one of these on their dog and pull it tight.

Put prong collar on the google image search and see all the happy dobes, shepherds and rotties with the collars on, then imagine yanking the slip chain... Could you do it? Really?

I couldn't.

Totally agree....

the really sad thing in it all is.. I have delt with all of the above breeds... some really hard/difficult dogs.. and had great success in all of them without the use of prongs..
the diff may be it takes a bit longer... to me everyone is looking for a quick fix that uses these.. or they are inconsistant in there training methods

Excellent post - totally agree!

Barbed wire is pointed, prong collars have blunt tips.

As regards "yanking the slip chain", a prong collar is like a half-choke, you choose whether to use the dead ring or the live ring. In the case of the dead ring pulling the lead doesn't tighten the collar, obviously the dog feels the upwards pressure on the collar, if you use the live ring then the collar will tighten but not by much.

Providing a prong collar is used correctly I believe it is safer for the dog than a full choke, however this wasn't my view until I saw them being used in the flesh, I used to take the view that they were barbaric when I too based my opinion on photo's on the 'web.

Ian

some dogs just dont deserve to have their spokespeople

have you had to use them on your rottwieler