PLEASE HELP!!! Is a Cane Corso X Presa Canario classed as a 'dangerous dog' in UK??? Controversial

Discussion in 'Presa Canario' started by Traceyxxx, Dec 13, 2007.

  1. Alphatest

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    The reason why it was valid to ask the poster why didn't they just consider a pure bred was because you never know what you're gonna get when you cross two breeds, hence the end result could be puppies that do fit in the 'type' that the DDA refers to.

    Can we get back on topic now please.
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  3. Malady

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    I'm sorry, but it's clear from your answers that you know very little regarding how the majority of show breeders actually keep their dogs, or how they rehome them etc, and it's very insulting, not to mention infuriating, when someone is spending time trying to let you know all these things, for you to just basically say I am lying about it all. I'm not wasting any more of my time explaining these things to you :001:

    The Op was questioned because the 'type' of dog they wanted could be interpreted as a dog on the DDR, which could cause immense problems for them and inevitably the dog who could face death.

    The Op was also given excellent advice about why not to fund these types of breeders and advice about health testing and why it's important.

    If the OP didn't want any advice at all, they would not have posted on a open public forum, where everyone is entitled to an opinion based on their knowledge.
  4. Malady

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    Just remembered this too !!

    Can you please explain how you managed to get a dog younger than 10 months old Hip Scored ? as the BVA won't score a dog until they are over 12 months old ?
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    my point was that not all show dogs are family pets, and some do spend their lives shut in kennels.

    which brings me to your second point

    why would a dog never encounter a horse? unless you live inner city and never go for walks in the countryside

    your third point

    giraffes ??? don't know what youre on about, bella did have an encounter with the local legend, black panther, so now i know its real, and she was more scared than me
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    Has the OP ever posted again? I can`t find a response. This question could have been answered immediately by a Google, I`d have thought, so I assume there was an underlying query. Was I wrong? Hello? Did you decide to get the pup?
  7. hades

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    Well in glad you arent wasteing anymore time....
    because to be honest im bored of you babbaling on.. thinking that your points of view and only your points of view are right....which they clearly are not!
    I'd rather have a chat or debate with a more open minded person who is more intrested in an animals or "dogs" welfare than wether it has pedigree papers!
    You and your pedigree papers can go and force your points of view of some other poor person!
    A dog is a dog....they all come from the same genetic gene pool one way or the another...which I think you have forgot!
    ;-)
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    very well said, dogs are dogs, too much pedigreee snobbery about, crosses and mongrels have the same right to be peoples pets as best in show winners do
  9. Shona

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    As someone who shows and breeds im a bit miffed at your comments hades, I have 4 dogs at the moment, was 5 untill last month, three of which are free loading pets {one had diabetes but died last month} but vinnie and tegan will never see a show ring, so the comment about breeders getting rid is a bit off, yes some do it, some dont, but some folk that buy crosses they know nothing about get rid too, the diff is, they wait untill the dog is out of there control, they have problems with it so withdraw it from socilaising, it becomes far to much to handle and normaly the crunch comes when it does damage to someone or some other poor animal, before getting rid, a show dog thats re homed is likely to be well socialised and well trained, a fairly good example of the breed, but poss hates showing, so its not the same thing,
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    To lump all pedigree dogs and all the people who show in to a category is ridiculous, just as daft as saying all footballers are thugs and all cricketers are sexist might just as well say that all people who own x breeds are irresponsible.
  11. Shona

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    well said short sweet and right to the point, I never thought I would see the day when I spoke up for show/breeding folk, but although some can just send a dog off without the slightest feeling in the world there are many who just get to attached,,,like me and end up with less show dogs more pets, lol,
  12. hades

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    I wasnt lumping everyone together, breeders...or people who show.. at all.
    I was just talking to the people who were quoting me!
    I know everyone is different, breeders and people who show there dogs etc...in life you can never say EVERYONE about anything because it just not true...everyone is different and does thinks for different reasons!
    And I love pedigree dogs too, I had a ped lab from the age of 11..which was 10 years ago now.
    But all Im saying is that if someone want across of 2,3,4 or what ever breeds theres nothing wrong with that as long as they are offering the dogs a good home and are gona be responsible owners!
    And for people to say.....why buy a mongrel?
    I feel that is wrong...a dog is a dog surely?
    And doesn't a mixed breed dog have just as much right to be pet dog as any other breed?
    How can anyone say that all so called designer dogs breeders do it just for money....do they know every x breeder in the world?
    maybe the breeder feel in love with the mixed of what ever breed...and felt it was a great dog and other people would find it would be as a companion to.
    So many people now owner x breed dog..so there are great dogs to alot of people including myself!
    I coudnt wish for a better companion!
    Thats all I AM saying!
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    I haven't forgotten anything. I think you are forgetting the difference between someone who cares and someone who doesnt. Those that health test and love their breed so much they are willing to spend all their money on bettering the breed are for more about welfare than people sat at home raking in money because they've not thought about the welfare of their mongrel pets and decide instead to breed them for some quick cash !!

    Exactly.:mrgreen:

    No it isn't all you were saying. You are saying there is nothing wrong with crossbreeding any dog with any other dog, and that people who crossbreed are not doing it for money !! Sorry Hades, but everyone here (even those who own crossbreeds) know that not to be the case. Now where's Patch ? :lol:
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    Can you please also answer this for me ? You say your dog was x-rayed on another thread. That is NOT hip scored, as you wouldnt get a score from a dog so young, so how can you say his score was lower than his parents ?
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    I thought you werent wasteing anymore time????
    ....You must have plenty to waste!
    I have clearly said over and over again that I dont agree with crossing any breed of dog!
    Crossing large dogs to small bitches is cruel...as could crossing other dogs that would knowingly make alot more health issuses arise is cruel!
    So you mite want to make a little trip to specsavers with all that free time of yours!
    As for your dogs having more money spent on them and have a luxury lifestyle......here goes comes your snobby side coming out again! Are you kidding me, a dog is a k9 a animal and has k9 needs its not a human or a toy!
    Do you really think your dogs give a damm about all of that money spent on them or there luxury lifestlye!
    YOU really are very funny!lmao
    And to the weres patch...statment, do you always need someone else behind you!
    Because alot of people on here think your right doesnt mean jack....alot of people used to think fox hunting was right...was it?
    oh how thinks change!
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    It's not about being right or wrong, it's about being moral and ethical, which people on this forum are, and there's no escaping that people who unscrupulously crossbreed are neither.....FACT ! :001:
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    I said if someone wants a cross breed dog or puppy why shouldnt they? not if they want to breed any cross or just breed for the sake of making money!
    I really do insist you go to specsavers....Im sure your dogs wont mind missing a bit of there luxury lifestyle!
    Im quite supprised patch hasnt posted after you.....
    Im sure it wont ne to long!
    I thought I left school 5 years ago! lmao
  18. Malady

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    No-one has attacked you personally, people are just posting opinions, yet you are the one being personal and attacking, so yes, you are showing your age with your school playground attitude !:001:
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    mabey if we keep the debate on dogs and less of the personal we would all be able to have our say,,, in a grown up way,

    my biggest thing about the new designer x breeds are,,, some breeds will just not compliment one another causing more defects, if you look at a boxers skull then looked at say a greyhounds skull the two should never be mixed,, would it surely not cause more deformitys? hopefuly pod will pop in and with her knowlage on this stuff she or someone else can answer this for me x
  20. hades

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    madlady....
    because I asked months ago...what size my pup mite grow to...
    or because I changed my profile info, because I couldnt delete my whole account
    ....is that sticking to the debate and not being personal then????
  21. Malady

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    You made a point of saying you have started a thread to ask how you delete your account. I simply asked where that thread had mysteriously disappeared to, as Admin dont remove threads, unless they are posted by Trolls, and as you are still here, you are obviously not a Troll. So where is the thread you started, because I've just checked again, and you have not started a thread of any such thing, and any other member can also go and check on that FACT !!

    I'm not being personal at all, I simply asked a question, yet when people like myself and others answer people's questions explaining things, which we have researched etc, we do it so that people can gain new knowledge etc, yet you have constantly ignored my questions and show little knowledge on the whole issue.

    Can you answer the two questions I keep repeating or not ?

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