Shar-Pei Breeder General Chat

Discussion in 'Shar Pei' started by Zealousbluesharpei, Nov 18, 2018.

  1. Zealousbluesharpei

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    Shar-Pei Breeder

    Hello everyone! I wanted to introduce myself, and say hi, I’m Samantha. If anyone might be looking to add a Shar Pei to your family I love, own and breed quality AKC Chinese Shar Peis. Our peis are raised with our family and children and we focus on not just quality but health and temperament too. We have traditional style peis as well as the more meaty mouth peis and rare colors as well as bear coat Shar Peis. Please check out our website, I have a lot of very detailed information about our family and the love we have for our peis.

    I also wanted to mention that if anyone knows of any unwanted Shar Peis anywhere I am willing to do all I can to help find safe loving homes for them. I’d love to start a rescue group of some kind too if anyone would like to help and have ideas please contact me.
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    Hello Samantha, welcome to the forum. You will probably have noticed that although the forum is UK based, contributors are from a mix of countries.
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    Yes I have! I love the variety.
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    Hello Samantha, I saw your post before your website address was taken down so I had a quick look. Am I correct in that you have 10 females you breed and 5 males you stud with? That’s an awful lot of dogs to be breeding. I didn’t see anything about you showing these dogs but maybe I missed that bit.
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    Welcome to the forum.

    Are all your Pei SPAID tested?
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    The website is in the user name. I do not know much about Peis apart from the fact that there are different coats, but I was not aware that they come in toy and miniature versions, as well as standard.
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    What! I'll have a look.
    I was a bit preturbed by the mention of, "rare colours".
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    I do not know if this is a normal thing, but in order to be placed on their waiting list for a specific colour, coat and size, they require a non-refundable $200 deposit. Check the puppies currently available for prices.
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    I would imagine that not breeding to the AKC breed standard is the major reason why only Limited Registration is available.
    Interesting Conditions for Adoption, - also the exclusions on the Genetic Guarantee.
    For reference, www.cspca.com/education/akc_standard.asp
    Some later colour amendments in Notes re. Judging.
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    I'm rather confused because this AKC website says that brindle and mixed colours are allowed by the AKC.

    https://www.akc.org/dog-breeds/chinese-shar-pei/

    Which contradicts the other AKC website which like European KC's say that only solid colours are acceptable.

    http://images.akc.org/pdf/breeds/standards/ChineseSharPei.pdf

    This is the breed standard for the FCI which is the same as the UK KC.

    http://www.fci.be/Nomenclature/Standards/309g02-en.pdf

    You can only show brush coat Pei but not bear coat or horse coat.

    There's actually no such thing as a Mini or toy Pei. They're the the result of breeding two small Pei together. A normal size Pei like Georgina is anything over 18 inches tall. 17 inches and under like M'boi was (is) considered as a Mini.
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    Both links appear to bring up same article http://images.akc.org/pdf/breeds/standards/ChineseSharPei.pdf
    Color: Only solid colors and sable are acceptable and are to be judged on an equal basis. A solid Color dog may have shading, primarily darker, down the back and on the ears. The shading must be variations of the same body color and may include darker hairs throughout the coat.

    The following colors are disqualifications: Albino; not a solid color, i.e.: brindle; parti-colored;Spotted; patterned in any combination of colors.
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    This is where I was confused by the first website, mainly because of the Registration code numbers!

    Colors & Markings
    Colors

    DESCRIPTIONSTANDARD COLORSREGISTRATION CODE
    Apricot DiluteCheck Mark For Standard Color473
    BlackCheck Mark For Standard Color007
    Black SableCheck Mark For Standard Color480
    BlueCheck Mark For Standard Color037
    Blue DiluteCheck Mark For Standard Color474
    BrownCheck Mark For Standard Color061
    Chocolate DiluteCheck Mark For Standard Color477
    CreamCheck Mark For Standard Color076
    Cream DiluteCheck Mark For Standard Color476
    Cream SableCheck Mark For Standard Color348
    FawnCheck Mark For Standard Color082
    Fawn SableCheck Mark For Standard Color338
    Five Point Red DiluteCheck Mark For Standard Color478
    Isabella DiluteCheck Mark For Standard Color479
    Lilac DiluteCheck Mark For Standard Color475
    RedCheck Mark For Standard Color140
    Red FawnCheck Mark For Standard Color150
    Red SableCheck Mark For Standard Color155
    Blue Sable481
    Brown Sable482
    White199
    Markings
    DESCRIPTIONSTANDARD MARKINGSREGISTRATION CODE
    BrindleCheck Mark For Standard Mark051
    MaskCheck Mark For Standard Mark128
    PointedCheck Mark For Standard Mark130
    SableCheck Mark For Standard Mark026
    Saddle PatternCheck Mark For Standard Mark131
    Spotted On WhiteCheck Mark For Standard Mark071
    White MarkingsCheck Mark For Standard Mark014
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    Now you’ve got me confused as I didn’t see any of above :confused:
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    If you go to the end of the Illustrated Standard, (CSPCA, under Education at the top right, - you will have to download it to read it), there are three groups of additional coat colours, which appear to have been added in 2002. This is very confusing as the Breed Standard on the main club page does not contain this information. Does this suggest that these colours are now legal, or that they may be used when applying for Limited Registration?
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    Is this the one
    http://www.cspca.com/pdfs/illustratedstandardbooklet.pdf
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    Yes that is it. The range of permitted colours seems to have jumped to 17, - plus a separate category for three Alternate colours? Adding in Markings seems to allow an infinite range of possibilities - but the basic AKC Standard makes no mention of these.
    I must be missing something.

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