I know this is not unknown among bitches who were older when spayed, especially if they have had some litters, so I have been doing as much research as I can about Tikva, and one site says that bitches spayed under the age of 6 months can also have spay incontinence. But it does not add up. I did not want Tikva spayed until 3 months after her first season but both Michal, who was then her primary vet, and Ram, the owner and chief vet, who was wonderful with Pereg and who now comes to do all Tikki's shots etc, both wanted Tikki spayed as soon as she weighed 6 kg because she goes out on her tether and there are too many loose/stray dogs around. So she was spayed when she was 6½ months old - a very healthy 6 kg puppy. She now weighs 6.700 kg unless Ram did not check my scales when he came to give her the Parkworm shot. She has grown a bit but she is a rock-solid little girl who still looks skinny! She has been difficult to house train which is why I still keep a puppy pad in the salon. Not that she uses it much but it is there if necessary. She does not leak in her sleep - she has never so much as dribbled when she dozes on the couch during the day after having had a mad couple of hours, and she knows that if the door is closed and she needs a pee, to go to it and eep to be let out. The problem is that she will pee - not dribble but a full pee in her crate, maybe a couple of times a week. Never poo - she eeps loud enough to waken even me, who is hard of hearing. But sometimes I have to get up for the loo and it is too late to go back to bed, so I catch up on things on the computer so maybe she is eeping for a pee and I do not hear her? My PC is in my salon, her crate is in my bedroom the other end of the bungalow. Does anyone think that is is because I line her crate with a pee pad that she thinks it is OK to pee in there? She has a sleep pad or blanket the other end which she curls up on to sleep and it is not a small crate. Or maybe because I do not hear her eep because I have not gone back to bed?