Would you be willing to pay for a licence? Discussions

Discussion in 'General Dog Chat' started by Sara1210, Jan 12, 2007.

  1. Hayley SBT

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    I would be willing to pay, id do anything to keep my dogs and if it meant alot of money then i would find away to get and pay for my dogs because they mean the world to me
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  3. Mahooli

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    Even if it was £300 per dog per year?
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  4. Hayley SBT

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    Yes becky, i would think that it wouldnt come to that but id do anything to keep my dogs
  5. hopelessdawn

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    We are in the US and we have to get a license for each dog we have. The price depends on the town u live in. We pay $2.50 a year if the dog is spayed otherwise its like around $20.00 I believe. I believe the usual rate is around $12.00 per year in most towns.
  6. Mahooli

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    Is it enforced and does everyone abide by it?
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  7. hopelessdawn

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    Nope not everyone does it and bascially what happens is if if your dog is found and picked up by animal control they will charge you a fine for not having license and you have to get license then. The fine is usually not a lot, but goes up pretty high if it happens again.
  8. dsmem3429

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    I too remember paying the 37 1/2p license and thinking at the the tim ethat I bet it cost more to print/organise than it cost to buy.

    I would be willing if it was the law, and I agree that it should be the owners who are licensed not the dogs, and that some sort of education/test could be envolved.

    But... like car tax etc, I'd get annoyed because I'd be surprised if it was enforced. I mean if you didn't but one but had healthy, well behaved dogs they are hardly going to remove them from you are they?

    ....and I also would like to know what they'd spend the revenue on, the rescue home idea was a great one, or even anything to educate the non-dog owning public about our dogs.
  9. Patch

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    Licensing was in when I was young and there wasnt the `big brother` resentment back then, people just got a licence.
    It was the `norm` to do so, I dont think people particularly tried to deliberately evade it generally :?:

    These days, I think there is so much big money in puppy farming, dog fighting, illegal breeds etc etc, yes of course there will be elements who will avoid it because of dodgy dealings or through sheer ` why should I ` mentality.

    However, there are far more decent people who would be happy to return to a licence system and if it happened I like everyone else would like to see monies raised going on rescues / other animal welfare / funding the setting up of care courses / training courses, or other related causes.
    PErhaps the bloodbanks on the petition on the relevent thread could be top on the list of suitable projects to come out of licencing fee`s were they to happen ?

    Perhaps, if compulsory chipping does come in, [ there was a campaign some time ago with a proposed plan of several years voluntary chipping then compulsory coming in, not sure where thats up to now ], a licence could be issued at the same time as a chip is done ie at breeder source, or included in adoption paperwork from rescues, the only anomolies, [ among the law abiding decent sector of course ], being transfer of ownership if not through a rescue centre or direct from breeder so they wuld need to get that done separately ?

    I know we all complain about those who would`nt pay or dont tax their vehicles or whatever, but there will always be people evading this or that, its a fact of life. Those few should not be used as an excuse to stop others doing what they know is right.
    I do know someone who had let his car tax lapse and he was prosecuted for it - the out of date disc was spotted by a copper in the lane next to the driver at traffic lights :lol:
    He always made sure his vehicles were taxed after that, he realised it was cheaper than a £1000 fine and points on his licence - one woul think he could have worked that out for himself but it really didnt seem to sink in until he was in court :roll:

    I think so long as deterants were severe enough, [ instead of the usual namby pamby slaps on the wrist these days - pffft, even an actual slap on the wrist would get a higher sentence than whoever had been slapped for doing wrong, like for committing a burglary or whatever :roll: ], it could get most people to comply.

    That would be the crux of it really, the risk of a *very* heavy penalty vastly outweighing the simple compliance of getting a dog licence like in the `good ol days` when coppers could cuff a kid on the back of the head for being cheeky and people in the main grew up choosing to avoid consequences of wrong doing. [ I feel really old for even saying that :blush: ].
  10. Sara1210

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    Nicely said Patch :lol:
  11. bullterrier

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    Personally I`d resent the fact that I`d have to pay the government to own my dogs with an intensity you wouldn`t believe.
    The law abiding would cough up, the lawless would laugh. The lawless would carry on as before.
    I believe that this would be very hard to control (even impossible), it`d cost far to much & the government wouldn`t put the cash into any good causes unless it was one of their pet projects like education, the NHS, the DSS. If they did do something for dog welfare it wouldn`t last long, the chancellor would start syphoning money off for the other said dept`s when the budget came up.
    The next budget would see a price rise but with a cut in the dog welfare budget. This would go on till the next waste of a human body with an unsocialised dog allowed a vicious attack to happen, because he couldn`t be bothered to walk the dog, couldn`t be bothered to teach the dog good manners, basically he couldn`t be bothered.
    Call me cynical, you`d be damn right, but nothing this government has done seems to have been a resounding success.
    A license would do nothing, after all there`s approx 4 million dogs on our fair island (please correct me if I`m wrong). It`d be impossible, the police wouldn`t want enforce it, how could they ? It`d be a logistical nightmare, they can`t even be bothered to enforce the DDA,(don`t even get me started on that piece of toilet tissue).
    The only country that seems to have stuck to there dog laws are Germany & what an evil, nasty, vindictive, mess that is.
    A license will change nothing.
    Rant over, but it is exactly how I feel & I`d put my arguement to anybody because of all the above.
  12. Meg

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    Yes, I would be happy to see a dog licence for a number of reasons. :)

    I would be happy to pay a nominal sum yearly. I know there would be a lot of opposition as Patch pointed out but if the cost included benefits (as I stated previously in another thread http://www.dogsey.com/showthread.php?t=52792
    ... the majority of dog owners may be willing to comply. :)
  13. kyektulu

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    I would certainly be willing to pay, I love my babe too much not too. lol :grin:

    It would be a nice idea, a way to stop the unsuitable owners from having a dog in theory, but I dont think it would work.

    After all what organisation has the facilitys and time to check every single person with a dog for a lisence?
  14. Shona

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    I think this is the best idea licence the owner rather than the dog, but I also thing you should do a test to prove your knowlage on dogs,

    only problem is, OH would need one to, not that big a problem, but what if he is working away and I am ill, so a friend offers to walk the dogs,....... she would be breaking the law if she were not licenced,
  15. IanTaylor

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    I'd be happy to buy a license if they used the money to fund proper wardens or some other form of policing to stop all the idiot dog owners. Unfortunately I think thats highly unlikely. More likely your average, responsible owner would simply be throwing his/her money down the governments money pit and the idiots, who probably wouldn't pay, would still walk the streets causing mayhem. So I guess mine is a NO!
  16. janie41

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    definately! id pay for a license id expect discount on more than one dog per household though ;) and i agree with a previous post the money should go to dog charities .
  17. Missysmum

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    Yes. I would be willing to pay for a licence . I would also take a test if required by law. Like others have said though , I don't see how the authorities would police this if it became law. They can't manage with the laws they already have.
  18. Patch

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    I could never understand why licencing stopped in the first place :?
    As I said before, back then it was so ` normal / the thing you just did` to get a licence, no one particuarly thought anything of it as being intrusive or expensive or any of the excuses people come up with today for avoiding things.
    The general feeling as I remember it was that people just did`nt dare not get something so easy to obtain.

    I truly believe society has become so lawless these days because of such light consequences to so many misdoings, and thats why there is more and more big brotherness` these days - people as a species have brought that on ourselves.

    Had the licenses never been stopped, they would be as ingrained as ` the thing to do` now as they were then and people would not be looking at the negatives of why not to have one including ` well the bad `uns wont bother so why should I` syndrome.
    Car tax is the usual paralell example given and sure there are people who never tax their cars but has that element resulted in the majority of people not bothering because a small proportion of soceity are prepared to risk getting caught ?
    Of course not !
    I may be being naive but I really do think the vast majority of people are law abiding and decent, and would *want* to be counted among those who would happily have a licence and preferably take a test of dog ownership / care ability too if only to have pride in having done so and being among the `moral majority`.

    So, if licencing does come back, so long as funding was used the right way and penalties for non-compliance were suitably hefty to make it just not worth the risk of avoiding it, I would welcome it back with open arms :smt001


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  19. Evie

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    We have dog licenses here in Norhtern Ireland. Both of mine are licensed. It's £5 per dog a year, so no excuse for not having one. If you are caught without a license the fine is £50.

    All I had to do was fill out a 2 page form for each dog and hand over my money. I'm still awaiting the license and tags in the post though! :shock:

    Despite there being licensing here we have the worst rate of strays and dogs pts in the UK.

    Alot of dogs here are just let out to exercise themselves, dodging cars, fouling and causing trouble, all the while their little blue tags jangling in the wind. :evil:

    The dog wardens here are always busy and their kennels full. I just look on the fee as a way to fund them I suppose. But it's not very effective in insuring caring owners.
  20. Lucky Star

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    Yes but only if the money were used to provide good quality dog education/training sessions for owners and dogs and work against dodgy breeding, cruelty, irresponsible owners - that sort of thing - and not just as another way for Governments to bleed us dry with taxes etc.
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    The reason I`d resent it isn`t so much others not paying but the fact they wouldn`t receive any or hardly any punishment if caught. Would the local police bother to do checks on people & their dogs, maybe for a few months. In the end it`d end up being a tax on the law abiding, no more, no less.
    Let`s say the police took this seriously and did police it, the only people to be stopped regularly would be Bull Breed owners because of peoples shortsighted phobias. Believe me I for one would resent this, don`t know how long I would be able to maintain a pleasant persona if regularly stopped, and yes I am a law abiding citizen. But like most people I would probably snap if some over officious 22 year old with no life experience tried it on with me in an overly officious manner.

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